Friday, December 6, 2013

11.19.13 Interview with David Kennard

Tonight we interviewed David Kennard.  He is the Mills Site Pastor and Adult Ministry Pastor at Riverside Community Church.  There were other people who came with him (pastors and ministers in training) who are part of a small group he is in, even though they may work in other ministries.  We began by asking how he defined discipleship. At Riverside, they have an equation that for discipleship.  It is:

D = R + I
Discipleship = Relationships + Intentionality

However, this is more about process.  This could apply to anyone.  After Professor Reese pointed this out, David clarified that the discipleship process is in the “intentionality” part.  Discipleship is about being who Jesus wants them to be.  His church uses an approach called, “Free Market Small Groups.”

FREE MARKET SMALL GROUPS
            This type of small group philosophy equips people to become small group leaders, they go through a training process, and then start an intentional small group based around something.  The small groups vary per who is leading and who is involved; a Bible study on 1 Peter, hunting, knitting, etc.  This type of small groups enables people to become small group leaders, and the small groups are functioned around what the people involved want.  This has proved very valuable, as people have come to these groups based off of their interests and then get plugged in.  We received a booklet from him in class that helped define this better.

A small group: is an opportunity for people to connect weekly as they journey through life together.  Spiritual, emotional and relational growth takes place as everyone shares in the everyday experiences of life.

Characteristics of “Free Market” Small Groups:
1.     They meet regularly (preferably weekly)
2.     They have three or more people attending, including the leader
3.     They develop and identify an assistant leader
4.     They model our core values by striving to Revere God with their worship, Connect with each other for their growth, and Contribute to God’s plan for humankind.
5.     Unless specified they welcome new people into the group anytime during the semester
6.     They are supported by section and zone leaders
7.     They develop group members into future leaders
8.     They encourage group members to invite people who are outside of the church
9.     They complete their topic by the start of the next Sign-Up Rally
10. They grow

FACTS, NUMBERS, STATS
            Around 80% of their congregation of 700-800 people are involved in small groups.  About 80 people are involved in their small groups who do not attend the church.  The worship team, church board, etc. are all viewed as small groups as well and do things together in this capacity.  This church seems to be completely based around small groups!  All of the small group leaders get together once a month, and their church also does a lot of community projects.
The small groups are semester based, from September to the first week of December, a month off, and then January through May.  They almost all meet once a week, and they have noticed those bear the best results.  He said when they miss a week, they miss a month.  People are out of each other’s lives when this happens.

OTHER NOTES & QUESTIONS
            We talked about holiness in these small groups and bringing people to a more godly lifestyle.  In their small groups, they talked about the balance of truth and grace.  One of their conclusions was that more truth can work better with believers because they are on the same “playing field” as they all adhered to Scripture.  This is less effective with non-believers, but obviously both truth and grace must always be together!
            They use the “Follow” book by Daniel McNaughton.  They have a Follow Booklet that they actually have at the altars, which is an introduction step.  They have two campuses, one of them meeting in a mall.  We saw the history of the mall site, and it’s pretty cool how God kept having them grow to bigger facilities in the mall.
It’s interesting how they do the preaching, they use a system called “Streambox” to stream the video.  David sometimes does preaching live, maybe about three times a year.  He collaborates with the lead pastor about what they are preaching, and gets the notes Saturday night to preach the next morning.
David said he liked the “Follow” material because it has so much content, and is really based on Jesus and His disciples rather than other Bible characters most discipleship material is based off of.  This provides the content in a way that the spiritual coach does not have to have all the answers, which encourages people to become spiritual coaches.

MY CONCLUSION
            This church is a well-oiled machine.  Small groups are key to what they do, yet have 700-800 people attending!  Between their materials (Follow Jesus booklet, Small Group Catalog, church introduction video, etc.), small groups, locations, etc. they have a very clear idea of what they are doing, why they are doing it, and where they are going with it.
            It sounds like they have a great idea of discipleship.  Their process is very well defined, which actually gives me mixed feelings.  I think it is very effective, especially from the way he described the church.  Sometimes I am wary of church becoming too much of an “organization” and less of an “organism,” but that’s not the sense I get from this church.  They seem to have effective results, and I don’t think the focus is only on process.  I guess when you have a church of this size, process is just something you have to focus on a lot.  I appreciated having David and his small group in class with us, and feel like I gleaned a lot of valuable knowledge from this.


David also recommended these to us:
Susan Cain’s TED talk

Dog Training, Fly Fishing, and Sharing Christ in the 21st Century
By: Ted Haggard


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